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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Autor</th> <th class="thCornerR">Wiadomość</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>kuczer-dyga</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Śro 16:33, 25 Wrz 2024<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><span style="color: 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<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /></span></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>but gomeza</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Śro 19:14, 09 Cze 2021<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/images/smiles/cool.gif" alt="coole" border="0" /> <img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/images/smiles/new_angry.gif" alt="Zly" border="0" /> :smt039</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>w czarną noc</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Czw 4:07, 20 Maj 2021<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">to można podbić</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>opcja społeczna</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Śro 19:02, 19 Maj 2021<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">religia zdycha tylko w świecie białego człowieka, europa to kontynent starych dziadów z pieniędzmi. niemieccy rewolucjoniści mogą co najwyżej ustawiać sie w kolejce do OZP przed meczetami</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Gość</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Śro 16:49, 19 Maj 2021<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Popieram. Kościół i duchowni powinni być traktowani jak agenci wpływu.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>only Satan!</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Śro 16:14, 19 Maj 2021<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/images/smiles/cool.gif" alt="coole" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Gość</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Pon 23:26, 01 Mar 2021<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>gagarin napisał:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Zbudujemy tęczowe świątynie, gdzie będziemy modlić się do Anala i Orala <img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/images/smiles/new_cool.gif" alt="" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />I Kofana Anana <img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/images/smiles/cool.gif" alt="coole" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>gagarin</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Pon 23:18, 01 Mar 2021<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Zbudujemy tęczowe świątynie, gdzie będziemy modlić się do Anala i Orala <img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/images/smiles/new_cool.gif" alt="" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>gagarin</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Pon 21:18, 01 Mar 2021<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Aha, na zebraniach rewolucyjnego Komsomołu będziemy masowo i grupowo brać z odbytu do ryja <img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/images/smiles/new_cool.gif" alt="" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>stulejarskie parlamente</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Pon 18:51, 01 Mar 2021<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">popierame <img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/images/smiles/cool.gif" alt="coole" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>gagarin</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Wysłany: Nie 16:31, 28 Lut 2021<span class="gen"> </span> Temat postu: Co zrobic z kosciołem?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">To, ze chrzescijanska wiara w Jezusa i jego krzyz podzieli los egipskiej wiary w krokodyla jest pewne, ale bardzo odlegle. Po zwyciestwie rewolucji czeka nas okres budowy socjalizmu. Beda to dziesiatki albo i setki trudnych lat, pelnych zagrozenia kontrrewolucja wewnetrzna i zewnetrzna. Co w tym czasie zrobic z klerem, z ludowymi zabobonami, z religijnymi fanatykami? <br /> <br />Ja bardzo chcialbym wreczyc ksiezom skierowania do pracy, przebudowac koscioly na baseny, teatry i domy mlodziezy, a Biblie oddac na makulature. A to nie takie proste. <br /> <br />Jesli tak postapimy, musimy liczyc sie z tym, ze katoliccy fanatycy uciekna sie do terroryzmu, a zagranicznych mocodawcow, cichych lub jawnych, im nie zabraknie. Tego nam nie potrzeba. Nie chcemy w Polsce Iraku. <br /> <br />Jak to jest, ze od zwyciestwa kontrrewolucji na wschod od Laby wyrosla juz prawie nowa generacja a koscioly w Niemczech jak byly tak i sa puste,a w Polsce jak byly tak i sa pelne? Przypuszczam, ze polityka SED wobec Kosciola byla madrzejsza, niz polityka PZPR. No, ale to juz historia. <br /> <br />Mam kilka propozycji na temat traktowania Kosciola po zwyciestwie rewolucji: <br /> <br />1. Kulty pozostana dozwolone, ale sprawa scisle prywatna. Zadnych manifestacji publicznych, procesji ani pomnikow. <br /> <br />2. Lokalne Komitety Obrony Rewolucji beda przeprowadzac rozmowy uswiadamajace z obywatelami wykazujacymi szczegolna gorliwosc religijna. <br /> <br />3. Srodki masowego przekazu podejma tematy antyspolecznej i kontrrewolucyjnej roli kosciolow oraz swiatopogladu naukowego i ateizmu. <br /> <br />4. Pozbawic Kosciol dostepu do srodkow przekazu, zadnej prasy, zadnych broszurek parafialnych. <br /> <br />5. Nauka religji tylko w kosciolach i tylko dla osob doroslych. Biblie wlaczyc, obok Iliady i Odysei, do programu nauki o literaturze antyku. <br /> <br />6. Skonfiskowana zostanie wszelka wlasnosc koscielna. <br /> <br />7. Ksieza beda otrzymywac od panstwa wynagrodzenie pozwalajace na zaspokojenie podstawowych potrzeb osobistych. Zabronione beda wszelkie kolekty pieniedzy i dobr materialnych na rzecz Kosciola. <br /> <br />8. Zabroniona bedzie dzialalnosc publiczna i polityczna kleru. Zadnych "listow pasterskich", zadnych wyjazdow do Watykanu, zadnych spotkan z zagranicznymi politykami i dziennikarzami. <br /> <br />9. Okresy urlopow i wakacji zostana przedluzone o okres zniesionych swiat koscielnych.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="http://picsrv.fora.pl/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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